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Elemental Shaman Rotation in 3.3

Tuesday, January 12, 2010 | posted in , | 30 comments


First let me say I know it has been a while since I posted any  new information on the Tavern.  Between work, real life and raiding I haven't had much time but things have finally settled down for me again.  I look forward to bringing you guys as much Elemental Shaman information as I can as we make our way through Icecrown Citadel and finally take down the Lich King.  I will also start working on gathering all Cataclysm information as it is released so Shamans are ready when it comes out later this year.

I have spent a lot of time raiding and testing some new rotations for the Elemental spec since 3.3 has come out.  As we were going into 3.3 working our way through ToGC the top dps rotation had Chain Lightning being used after Lava Burst each time or even on cooldown if the encounter was not very mana  intensive.  Well in 3.3 this will not be the case.

The best Elemental Rotation in 3.3 no longer involves using Chain Lighting.  Now that statement may be misleading as you will still use CL but not after every Lava Burst.  The rotation you should be using now is Flame Shock, Lava Burst, Lightning Bolt until LvB is off cooldown.  The only time a CL should be cast on single target bosses is when you need a filler spell.  Remember you should never clip you Lava Burst cooldown by casting an extra LB but a CL just might fit in.  In 3.3 the haste levels that elemental shamans are reaching have brought the cast time of Lightning Bolt down so far that it no longer makes sense to have Chain Lightning in your standard rotation.

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Viola
on January 12, 2010 at 12:50 PM  

I Did a simple macro for use EM with the 2 pieces of tier. the macro is

/cast lighting bolt
/cast elemental mastery

in this way pushing 1 botton automathically the em will pop when ready.

(sorry for bad english... not my main language)

This means that with the 3.3 our rotation is 3 buttoned, and I don't know if it's a good thing... or not.

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John
on January 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM  
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mandible
on January 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM  

I try and avoid using EM during heroism and even when my haste trinket procs, is that a good or bad idea?
Like try and thread it in to my "downtime" of increased haste.
Not that I have the 2 piece bonus yet.
My thought being I didn't want to push myself past 3k haste for extended periods of time.

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miguex
on January 14, 2010 at 7:25 PM  

Ok, I made several macros for elemental shaman. This one is pretty good and no delays:

with CL (without just delete the cl)
/castsequence [nochanneling] lava burst,chain lightning,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
/cast lightning bolt
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

try it!

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ђiкa distuявia Sєккo
on March 17, 2010 at 10:47 AM  

I'm a troll so I made a macro using Berserking but at the moment If I use the cds, (EM & berserking ) the cast time of my LB downs to .9s and thats not good. So im I using separatelly. And got problems whit BL if I used the 3 cds

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Starbuxx
on March 18, 2010 at 3:39 AM  

So im working out my shammy.. i keep seeing alot of other shammies killing me in dps.. i do the rotation fs,Laveburst,LightningB unless multiple mobs where i toss in cl im just concerned with my hit maybe too much so should i just go gem up more sp or bulk up more haste.. heres my armory if you get the chance to look and thanks in advance..http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kilrogg&cn=Starbuxx

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danzaniel
on March 29, 2010 at 3:03 AM  

yes way to much you need 364 HIT

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danzaniel
on March 29, 2010 at 3:03 AM  

i would get rid of the hast trinket and get 512 spell trinket, and chuck in a few hit gems

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Newt Gingrich
on April 1, 2010 at 12:08 PM  

What should the hit and haste ratings be for shammies at this point?

I came back to the game in the last couple of months, and I'm trying to be most efficient for my guild.

Thanks!

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Tilldeath84
on April 6, 2010 at 8:44 AM  

can anyone help me i havent been Ele for that long was Resto for 4 years. and now im pulling my hair out to do over 5k dps on bosses in ICC. I use the rotation posted on this site but cant pull big numbers can anyone help me please?
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Saurfang&cn=Tilldeath

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Mara
on April 7, 2010 at 9:20 PM  

Hi,
I am just your basic Noob mom playing wow..I am looking to get "accurate" info on hit caps and proper rotations..I am a Troll Horde Elemental Shammy..Any help would be so extremely appreciated!!

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Zuluhed&cn=Crystalynn&group=1

Thanks!!!

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Mara
on April 7, 2010 at 9:23 PM  

PS...Not just Hit cap >.< sorry ..crit haste etc!! thanks again!! I Love this site!!!

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Newt Gingrich
on April 8, 2010 at 4:39 PM  

To Tilldeath,

From what I saw on your armory...

Your haste is not bad, I saw 655. This still needs to increase. I know the best players are 800 and up, and the soft cap is over 1200. I'm around 700 right now.

It looks like your biggest problem is your hit rating. 180 is just too low. I'm trying to remember, but I think the cap is in the high 300's, like 370-380.

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Tilldeath
on April 9, 2010 at 12:10 AM  

i have a spriest in my raid team so i only need 10% hit true?
and im in my pvp gear soz :D

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antonio
on April 10, 2010 at 5:36 PM  

well about the hast is ther a haste cap ?

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Stefan
on April 17, 2010 at 12:24 PM  

Guys i have question, What gems should i stack as ele sham.. and i as rotation i use: flame shock,Lava Brust, Lighting Bolt(spam untill Lava Brust is off CD) then spam bolts and reset Flame Shock.. is that all?

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Brenton
on April 19, 2010 at 3:25 PM  

OK I'm gonna clear everything up. The hit cap is 17% total. Shamans can take 3% from their talents, and another 3% from either a moonkin, or a spriest in the raid, bringing the rating requirement down to 289(11%). Without a moonkin or spriest the requirement is 368(14%). If you are not hit-capped THAT is why your DPS sucks. After you are hit-capped, stack haste haste and more haste and spell power. Do this by enchanting for spell power if available, if not, then haste. Gem all red sockets with 23 spell power gems, yellow sockets with 12 spell power/ 10 haste gems, and match 2 blue sockets with a nightmare's tear and a 12 spell power/ 10 stamina gem. All other blue sockets just use 23 spell power gems. Now you will be a viable DPS candidate once again. Happy Raiding!

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baby_sumo2000
on April 28, 2010 at 4:05 PM  

sup i just started playing again and my guild wanted to MS ele sham and i was wondering if someone could tell me a good rotation and if u could tell me if ive got my sham gems and enchants right
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Andorhal&cn=Inveus

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Michael
on May 11, 2010 at 10:45 AM  

@ baby_sumo2000... did you by chance read ANY of the comments? Like for example the one right above yours.

What is wrong with some people? Are some that lazy that they can't even read..."I'll just post this comment that has been answered 5 times over above, cause I am either to lazy or just to ignorant to read".

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PEOPLE READ!!!

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Jesse
on May 13, 2010 at 11:17 AM  
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Pimplimp
on May 18, 2010 at 11:55 AM  

Ok any recommendations here? Besides new gear and reduce hit (which is all from gear no gems, debating dropping the +128 hit trinket for the SP trinket but then my hit is below cap and would have to gem for it and lose the triggered haste). My rotation is-> FS > Lvburst > LB until LvBurst off CD.

I my haste is 810 now and when trinket pops it is around 1300. My SP with TotWrath, and FTW is at 2999 if memory serves correct.

non-raid I am doing about 4k dps and in raid about 5.2k dps. Is it possible to get up there around the 7-10k dps range?

After rereading I may have to swap out the trinkets as once I get more Tier 10 my hit should come back up to minimum non gemmed.

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Evann
on May 22, 2010 at 9:31 PM  

Ok running iwth only one peice of my teir 10 gear and recently changing from resto to ele my stats are as followed 956 haste 265 hit (thats maxed with a shadow priest or boomkin acuse im draeni) 42.5% crit 3.4k spell power with totems down self buffed. Name is Tealah on Nazgrel server. I'm doing about 5.5k to 6.5k easy on 5 mans and 10 man iccs doing like 6.5k-7.5k dps and icc 25 can be doing almost 9k dps. So as a middle of the road dps I think im happy with thoese numbers and will only get better with 4/5 tier 10.

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Kasper
on June 5, 2010 at 2:50 PM  

To put it very simple...

Rotation; FS, LavaB, LightningB (spam lightning untill lavaB is off CD ( it will semi-renew ur FS ), keep doing this untill u need to refresh ur FS be4 casting LavaB...

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pacobell69
on June 8, 2010 at 12:31 AM  

There are some excellent guides out on the web that clarify any and all queries, but here are a few simple rules.

1. In relation to Ele shaman, Hit Rating > Spellpower > Haste > Crit.

2. If, when raiding in 5/10/25man, you are not above the 17% Hit Rating required, your DPS is not at it's full potential, full stop. You need to be equal to, or just over your 17% hit rating.

3. After HR, the next best stat for ele shaman, pound for pound, is Spellpower.

4. Gemming should nearly always be 23 Spellpower Runed Cardinal Rubies. If the bonus for the gemslots is 5 Spellpower or less, throw a 23 SP gem in there, no matter what the colour.

5. When gemming with blue gems, only ever equip 2 blue gems to activate your meta gem. These should be Glowing Dreadstones. Try to put them into blue sockets that will grant you a socket bonus of 7 SP or more.

6. If you can help it, never, never, never gem for Haste, Crit, Spirit or MP5. They fall well behind SP in the DPS scaling.

7. Only ever use Chain Lightning if you have 2 or more mobs.

8. Enchant accordingly. Have a look at some really good shaman profiles and see what they're using. Check these guys out as reference material:

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&cn=Canetoad

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dreadmaul&cn=Ryux

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&cn=Magaki

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Sjors
on June 26, 2010 at 2:11 PM  

damn.. all the dozens and dozens of things i read about elemental shamans are so misguiding and fail..

first of all.. NEVER ever ever EVER use chain lighting on a single target BOSS 3x more mana 2k less dmg on avarege. Its a fast cast so u can use it for things with small hp pool that needs to die fast but in a dps rotation ur just brain dead if u use it therefor.. 2 MUST have glyph LB+TOW 3rd glyph can be LVB Flametounge or ele mastery Flameshock isnt 60% more dmg but only 10 or 5 % in reality

Try spam flameshock on a dummy without glyph then buy glyph and do the same.. u will notice almost zero dps/dmg inrease

now u rotation can be:

LB LB LB LB ele mastry/trinkets LB LB LB LB LB LB LB LB LB this can be very very effective if u have way to much haste Now remember flameshock = 1/1.5k dps LVB is around 1.5/2.5k dps INCREASE* depends heavly on SP/glyph so this is awesome if u have ele mastry glyph (yes its usable even for end game raiding)

INC flameshock and lavaburst without 4set Tier 10 bonus

LB LB LB (starting with this gives more advantage then starting with ele mastry) flameshock LVB cooldownds LB LB LB LB FS LVB LB LB LB LB LB FS LVB LB LB LB LB LB FS LVB LB LB LB LB LB

With 4 set tier 10

LB LB LB FS LVB (cooldowns) LB LB LB LB LB LVB LB LB LB LB LB LVB LB LB LB LB LB etc till ur flameshock runs out then repeat the rotation..

I shouldnt even give u these rotation cause elemental is Soo so so easy to counger as u should remember before LVB came our dmg was pure ligthing bolt only and magma+chain light for aoe's NOT single target

now for evry starting elemental shaman i whould say start with Lightning bolt ONLY and as u advance and ur gear becomes better try keep flameshock dot on target as its 2/3k dps Extra with lava burst

also i must notice if u have a warlock with spell power buff you can keep fire elemental on cooldown and use Searing when its on CD

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Not who you think
on July 1, 2010 at 8:31 AM  

I'm having trouble breaking 5k dps even in Icc 10/25 man. I'm using the suggested Flame shock, Lava burst, Chain lightning, Lightning bolt x5, Lava burst rotation. Any Ideas?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darkspear&cn=Firesail

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Pimplimp
on July 16, 2010 at 3:54 PM  

Looking at the armory pages Sjors posted I think the biggest difference my current build and some of the other ones people posted is the lack of a Dislodged foreign object.

If this meets maximum proc stat you are doing an additional 1000+ SP so now you go from about 3200 SP to 4200+ that I am sure will make a difference.

Unbuffed and untotmed my SP is around 3089 with a 899 haste and when in 10 man ICC I am now doing around 7K DPS and around 7.8-8.9(peak)K DPS in 25 man.

If I were to add the Dislodged foreign object I think I could push 9-9.5K

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Charles
on August 6, 2010 at 4:30 PM  

Hey, thanks for the advice Sjors!

I am now pulling 5.5k on the H dummy without popping trinkets, the Glyph of TOW make a huge difference. My main spec is resto, and I've been called upon to dps so it feels good to rise to the occasion. Excellent advice, thanks again.

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fieldsgeoff11
on September 3, 2010 at 2:31 AM  

well im following the rotation shown and my haste is about 834 which is shown on my armory which ill post. i do about 7.1k dps in icc10 on the deathbringer guy. but when i get to sindragose i do like 5.5k or less. how do i increase my dps on that fight?

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Eonar&cn=Swisted

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TrisNiN
on September 17, 2010 at 6:03 PM  

fieldsgeoff11

Drop the haste gems and get sp gems(keep the blues in your chest and boots, but change about everything else to the runed cardinals and the 3 runed dragons eye).

Replace both trinkets (especially the lunar dust), get the abyssal rune from toc5 reg (easy farm). Get the spyglass or dislodged foreign object from ICC (or both when you can), or even the reign of the unliving from TOC25. Mp5 is not a stat to look for as Ele. Although it is on some of the best weapons for us out of icc that most will see (Heroic Midnight Sun/Heroic LockJaw depending on which you can get).

Try to drop your hit if you are in a raid with a boom/spriest.

I would also swap BM with Might Spellpower, SP is a guaranteed stat. If the fights are stand and nuke BM might prove to be a better enchant, but timing and fight mechanics in ICC make me want to stay away from it. Also swap ice walker for tuskar's.

Other than that your spec is good, I would get rid of the Flame Shock glyph. Look at Sjors post above for others and for a good rotation.

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